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  • rone7

    Dienstag, der 28. November 2017 at 10:18
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  So we have one party for Christianity, and one against it. Should we vote for the one against it, just because some day the one for it, could be a problem? This seems to be ktfnews’s opinion. Am I wrong?

  
  
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    • admin

      Dienstag, der 28. November 2017 at 16:11
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    This is not about politics. It is about prophecy. In the context of doing good, the enemy is setting up the world for the last deception, false worship. That’s the prophetic point. We should not vote for either party. Both fulfill prophetic events. We are advised not to vote for parties because we have been given a far greater work. We must give the 3 angels messages of Revelation 14, not engage in politics.

    
    
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    • Patrice Kielhorn

      Montag, der 4. Dezember 2017 at 10:31
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    Yes, you are wrong

    
    
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  • rone7

    Mittwoch, der 29. November 2017 at 10:24
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  Yes we are advised not to vote for parties. I vote for individuals. You say this is not about politics. But I hope you see this doesn’t answer the question. Yes I agree prophecy shows it will go to far, so do we vote against those who are for Christianity because someday they will go to far? .

  
  
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    • admin

      Mittwoch, der 29. November 2017 at 20:08
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    We are also advised not to vote for individuals. We are only making the prophetic and spiritual points. We do not give voting advice other than what the SOP says.

    
    
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  • rone7

    Donnerstag, der 30. November 2017 at 10:36
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  She makes some statements that make it clear campaigning is bad. Voting for Intemperate men is bad. I would like to read the comment she made against voting for any individuals.
  I think I have read all her statements on voting.

  
  
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    • admin

      Donnerstag, der 30. November 2017 at 20:18
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    You’ve certainly read this then… FE 475 “ The Lord would have His people bury political questions. On these themes silence is eloquence. Christ calls upon His followers to come into unity on the pure gospel principles which are plainly revealed in the word of God. We cannot with safety vote for political parties; for we do not know whom we are voting for. We cannot with safety take part in any political schemes. We cannot labor to please men who will use their influence to repress religious liberty, and to set in operation oppressive measures to lead or compel their fellow men to keep Sunday as the Sabbath. The first day of the week is not a day to be reverenced. It is a spurious sabbath, and the members of the Lord’s family cannot participate with the men who exalt this day, and violate the law of God by trampling upon His Sabbath. The people of God are not to vote to place such men in office; for when they do this, they are partakers with them of the sins which they commit while in office. { FE 475.2 }

    This statement makes it clear that voting for parties or individuals is wrong on at least three counts: 1). Politics is about political questions, which are to be buried. 2). Individuals who campaign are mostly all allied with one political party or another. 3). By voting “such men in office” we are partakers of their sins.
    Blessings, Admin

    
    
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  • rone7

    Donnerstag, der 7. Dezember 2017 at 10:17
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  I guess I will treat her as I do the Bible. Any statement that is crystal clear will have more credibility than those less clear.
  1. Keep your voting to yourself. Do not feel it your duty to urge everyone to do as you do.– {2SM 337.1} This seems to say don’t talk about it, ten goes on to say don’t try to convince EVERYONE of your opinion. I won’t try to convince everyone. This seems quite a bit different than burying political questions. Rather than burying a question (rather nebulous) I won’t try to convince everybody.
  2. I Have the option to vote for anyone regardless of party so I’m not voting for the party (straight ticket). 3. By voting “such men in office” . I don’t vote for people who are like she describes. Can I make a mistake…of course.
  The decision to vote for candidates is a personal decision….Do not feel it your duty to urge everyone to do as you do.“ Selected Messages, book 2, p. 337. It’s a personal decision….does that mean you should’t try to convince me not to vote?

  
  
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    • admin

      Donnerstag, der 7. Dezember 2017 at 23:32
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    The choice to follow the guidance of the SOP is a free choice. Only the Holy Spirit can convince anyone to do anything. That’s not my job. My job is to present the counsel. The follow up to obey or not to obey is up to the individual. It is easy to justify what one wants to do. But ultimately, the individual has to decide how to read and interpret the counsel, and then the decision how to act is between the individual and God. The counsel in FE is about as clear as it gets. I don’t reckon the less clear statements would overthrow the clearer ones on any account. None of the statements referenced are as clear as FE. You decide how to follow and accept the consequences whatever they may be. That’s your part. Pastor Mayer

    
    
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  • rone7

    Freitag, der 8. Dezember 2017 at 10:06
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  Keep up the good work!